By Ola Ajayi
`Governor Mimiko understands human feelings’…. Says 67% of people of state rejected ACN
Dr. Olu Agunloye, one-time Minister of Power and Steel, Minister of
State for Defence (Navy), Special Assistant to the late Chief Bola Ige,
member of Constitution Review Committee, and former chief executive of
the Federal Road Safety Commission, FRSC, was a governorship aspirant on
the platform of the Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN. In this interview,
he talks about his painful exit from the ACN and the verbal attacks on
him by the National Chairman of the party, Chief Bisi Akande, and
Senator Bola Ahmed Tinubu. Excerpts:
Implications of ACN defeat in Ondo election
The Ondo election brings a signal in two ways. We saw it as a struggle
for survival, liberation from neo-colonisation and any form of remote
control, liberation from any forcefully or deceitfully, cajoling to take
the resources of the state to anywhere outside Ondo or into one
person’s pocket. And it was clear that Ondo people saw that very
clearly. I was part of the campaign which was very strenuous and
comprehensive. The second signal of the election is that Ondo people
stayed along the line of progressive development. Ondo State people
elected Mimiko because of his programmes, his ideas.
After the election, a newspaper quoted the Chairman,
Independent National Electoral Commission, Prof. Attahiru Jega, as
saying the election was fraught with massive irregularities. What is
your comment on this?
It was his duty to make sure that there were no irregularities. So,
if he said that, he must know what he was saying. But, then, I don’t
think anybody said the election had a hundred percent mark. Most people
had admitted that it was far above average and I was part of that
election and I also know it was far above average. There was a signal
that the election was more or less one man one vote.
In areas where people used to have a margin of 12,000 votes, the
margin became smaller than two thousand and a total number of votes cast
under 5,000. In Ilaje, where people used to have a margin of 80,000 or
50,000, the total number of votes cast there was much less than that
which means that, to a great extent, the principle of one man one vote
was used.
The possibility of people stuffing ballot boxes with votes was
reduced and violence was also reduced because security men were on
ground. But, to say the election was hundred percent okay may not be
correct. However, it was very clear that it was perhaps the best
election we have had in Nigeria.
Is your governorship ambition for the future still intact?
I don’t know what you mean. But, let me answer it the way people would
like. I am leaving everything politically to God because I have done
everything any human being can possibly do and things have gone the way
they’ve gone. I worked for sixteen months relentlessly to build up the
Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN, and, at the end of the day, all I got
for my efforts was,’ if you are not satisfied, you can leave’ – while
the ticket was handed over to Mr Rotimi Akeredolu, who, to my knowledge,
did not do any work. And, eventually, I found myself in the same camp
with Gov. Mimiko. This only tells me that if God wants something done,
he would do it. For me, and, at my age, I would leave everything to
God.
Did your influence make any impact on that election?
The issue of followers, I would just try to quantify it. When we started
the Omoluwabi project, there were a lot of people who indicated
interest. I owed all that I have achieved over the years to the
Omoluwabi platform and I feel very passionate about that because none of
the followers made any demand on me nor got any promise from me. People
followed me with passion because they believed in me. They knew if I
got there, I would be useful to the state and to them. We sent forms
out to them to fill. We could not get all the forms back.
But, we were able to get about 157,000 forms. These people registered
on the Omoluwabi platform. When I shifted to Labour Party on July 26,
2012, not all people on the Omoluwabi platform followed me. Some of
them mounted rostrum or used the radio to abuse the hell out of me for
leaving the ACN; some of them had already left the ACN six weeks before,
when I was waiting for what ACN would do for us. Some of them had
shifted to the PDP but a couple of them came along with me. In the
process between July and October 20, I went round to all the local
governments to talk to people waiting for me to persuade them to leave
and join.
As for what the impact was in the time of the election, here, we need
to be modest and moderate. All I can say is that we had, as part of the
deal with Mimiko, insisted that Omoluwabi across the 203 wards and the
18 local governments must be integrated into all the committees. So,
what we found was that a typical Omoluwabi in a local government would
either be a member of a committee or a member of the ward or unit
committee.
Olu Agunloye
And in a local government where Omoluwabi people were being
sidelined, they made a call to me and I called the officer in charge and
they were brought in. At the time of the election, the Omoluwabi had
integrated and dissolved into Labour Party and worked for the party. I
could say very clearly that there are some local governments where we
had very significant impact.
The local governments are Oke-Igbo, Ilaje, Ile-Oluji, four Akokos,
Ire Ikari, Owo and Oso Local Governments minus the works that our people
did in Emure. We had seen ourselves as part and parcel of the Labour
Party and I’m happy today. So, we played a significant role just like
the old members of the Labour Party did before we got in.
Okay, let me play the devil’s advocate here: If you had not
defected to the Labour Party, do you think Mimiko would have won that
election?
As a born-again member of the Labour Party, I won’t respond to that……laughter!
If you could part ways with Tinubu, what assurances are there that you and Mimiko would not also part again?
I think you still have to clear some air on that. First, if there is
any opportunity for us to fight again, we will fight. So, that is
clear. If I fight with my wife here, I won’t spare a fight with Mimiko
or any other person because, as Yoruba people say, only a bastard would
have the opportunity to be angry and would not and it is also a bastard
that refuses entreaties to stop fighting. So, the cultural thing is
that if there is room to fight, we will fight.
But, the second clarification I need to make is that I’m happy
because Mimiko himself is a great achiever and so many things trail
him. Some people said,’ now that you have gone to Labour Party, do you
think he would not do to you what he did before?’ I said,’ so what?’
They knew there was a misunderstanding between Mimiko and I. Now, I
thank God that I took that path. If I didn’t take that path, I would not
have set up the Omoluwabi platform.
For purposes of clarification, what happened between you and Mimiko before?
Mimiko said, ‘You would not take this Senate slot, let us give you
this House of Representatives slot’. He went on to explain why and the
difference between the two and I also made my own point clear. He
believed I was convinced. I told him midnight that if they had told me
that outside, I would have refused flatly and that I would have gone to
the Supreme Court and say ‘see what they did to me’. Mimiko and seven
top people in the party, excluding Olaiya Oni, were trying to convince
me. They put pressure on me.
So, I was prevailed upon to step down from Senate and take the House
of Representatives, but, the following day, things looked alright. We
chatted in the Government House and, here, made the public announcement
of it and, the third day, they expected me to pick the form for House of
Representatives, but I didn’t show up. They called me asking why I was
not picking the form and they were panicky.
From that Saturday, January 8 or 9, Mimiko had practically made all
possible efforts to beg me, to cajole me, to apologise and did all
sorts of things including coming down to my house on Sunday, 9 January,
while I was away.He regretted, saying, ‘look, come and let us do it
again’. But I had my mind on running for the Senate. On Monday morning, I
had already made up my mind to join the ACN. At that point, he knew I
had made up my mind.
You lost a ticket in Labour Party, you went to ACN; in ACN,
too, you lost a ticket and you ran back to Labour Party. What’s the
difference?
Do you now want to compare that to what happened to me in the ACN?
My question is what’s the difference?
That of ACN is directly opposite. I worked for 15 months. In normal
mathematical way, that was 30 months. I worked, building the party and,
at the end of the day, I was told in a meeting where other people were
present that,’ look, we have given the ticket to somebody because we
have decided not to give it to the most popular aspirant. We have
decided not to give it to an aspirant who has a structure that is
stronger than the party so that he doesn’t hold the party to ransom’.
Those were nearly the words of Chief Adebisi Akande, the National
Chairman of ACN. I was shocked because one of the two criteria that
people use for campaign is popularity, acceptability and structure and I
had demonstrated in the last fifteen months.
But that ….? (Cuts in)
Let me tell you why I left the ACN. We had been told if we did not spend
up to a certain amount, we would not be considered. But, I had gone
beyond that benchmark and I did not need an accountant to tell me how
much I had spent. I told them all along that my accounts were run
through the banks. Ninety per cent of the money I spent was through
transfer and the cheques are there. Even people who gave me cash of N2m,
I went to the nearest bank and paid it into my account.
After doing all that, I had a meeting with Mr. Tinubu and all I heard
was that,’ we have done that severally to people. If you are not
satisfied, you can leave.’ It was like, ‘did I hear him right’. I had
four different meetings with Tinubu, three with Aregbesola and one with
Fayemi and about five trips to Ila Orangun to locate the chairman. It
then occurred to me to ask myself: ‘why are you doing this for a jewel
that is in Ondo State’. I was not running to be governor of Lagos or
Osun State. I then asked myself, ‘why are you running about’?
I just concluded that this is a situation where the proprietors and
dynasty of ACN are hell bent on the political business model which we
believe is not traceable to Ondo State. In Labour Party, I had
misunderstanding with some people and they begged me not to go until I
returned to the party and the other one, ACN, I did all that could be
done single-handedly for that party, yet they said I could go if I
wanted to. The records are there. All I heard was, ‘get lost’.
After I left, it was surprising that all I got from the National
Chairman of the party was insult; he opened his mouth and said Agunloye
was a mole, he was sent by Mimiko. We took him like a father. And then
suddenly the father said, ‘ I think this my son was an armed robber.
‘He paid my house rent two years ago, I was surprised, he bought me a
new car, I was wondering, he paid the school fees of his younger
brother, I was wondering, he repainted the house.
Now, I know he is an armed robber’. They now brought guard dogs from
Lagos who now called me a political prostitute. Why this language? Who
has not done it? Akande himself has done it. He was in Alliance for
Democracy, AD. When they called me a political prostitute, I said ‘
these guys don’t know what they are talking about’.
If the ACN makes overture to you again, say, in two or three years, to come, would you go back to the party?
It is not an issue of overture. Overture can be made today or tomorrow.
In the party, I understand that people are reckless and they say it is
allowed. People deliberately say what they want. If not, I don’t imagine
any human being on earth to say I betrayed the late Bola Ige not to
talk about Bisi Akande saying that kind of rubbish. So, people can say
what they like. But, the truth is that there was a critical thing that
happened to me in Labour Party before I left and the party itself
realized it was wrong. That was why they did all they could to get me
back.
In ACN, something more brutal, more irritating, more reckless
happened. But, that is part of the recklessness of the party and that is
why we believe that God has started taking power off them. That was the
reason they lost woefully in Ondo State, coming third. The point is
that I was not the only one who left the party and those who did not
leave were complaining bitterly. The political terrain in Nigeria is in a
state of flux and it would take sometime for things to gel.
With your efforts in Ondo election, what do you think that
Governor Mimiko can give you to appreciate your support during the
election?
He has given me that already. He has integrated all my people into
the party. Three of my top supporters have been given appointments. The
remainder really is in God’s hands. We know they,the opposition, have
gone to the tribunal and if the judiciary says come and hold a fresh
election, we are ready for that and we will beat them more and more.
Leaders of the ACN have been going about saying Mimiko got 41 per cent,
it means 59 percent of people did not want him. What they refused to say
is that 67 per cent of Ondo people didn’t want the ACN and 63 per cent
of the people did not want the PDP.
Tributes to the late Lamidi Adesina
Exactly, my close interaction with him started when Chief Moshood Abiola
died. I remember that day when the body was brought to Lagos for
burial, there was a lot of pandemonium in MKO’s residence in Ikeja. A
lot of people were barred from entering because people who were there
were mostly activists and people who were aggrieved were mad against the
people who they believed were not part of their programme and I
remember that it was Great Lam Adesina and I who stood at the gate for
over one hour trying to identify people and piloting them in to spare
them from the agony of being barred from entering.
And my second close encounter with him was when Bola Ige died and I
tried to set up Bola Ige Movement and he gave a lot of support to allow
the Movement to take-off from his office. I had two rooms in his office
that I was using. Each time we held a bi-monthly meeting, he may not
attend. Usually, he may come up and greet us and leave. But, he added a
lot of boost to it. Eventually, he got his SSG, Babalaje, to be the
chairman of Bola Ige Movement while I remained the convener of the
movement. As an administrator and a politician, Great Lam was respected.
The old ones must go before the younger ones. These people lived a
very good life. Dr. Olusola Saraki was very strong and had a very good
grip on Kwara State. To me, it was that grip that people wanted and when
they protested, he found a means to soften that grip. So, at that
level, we can say Saraki was a very good leader.
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