Yinka
Odunmakin is the Secretary of the splinter group of Pan- Yoruba
socio-political association, Afenifere, Afenifere Renaissance and Save
Nigeria Group, a civil society group that was at the forefront of the
recent oil subsidy removal protest. The spokesperson of the presidential
candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC), Gen. Mohammodu
Buhari (Rtd) in this interview with Rotimi Sulyman and Adewale Ogunniran speaks on the 5-day tumultuous street protests among other sundry issues.
The Save Nigeria Group came into being in the recent past, what led to the formation of the group?
Save Nigeria Group
came up as an intervention group in the dying days of former President
Yar’Adua, when a cabal did not allow the current president to assume
office as the ruling president. At that time, there was what was
generally being called power vacuum. The fact was that power was
hijacked and was exercised by people who in the first place had no
business with the power of the president. That was why we met on the 7th
of January, 2010, and reasoned that there was an urgent need for
concrete action. With people from the civil societies groups, we had our
first protest march in Abuja, and the second in Lagos, and later
returned to Abuja. This, among others, forced the Senate to pass the
doctrine of necessity. All that period, we never met President Jonathan,
and didn’t even care to meet him or know him, because what we were
doing was not for him but based on the principles of democracy. It was
after the doctrine of necessity was passed that we met President
Jonathan as a group, and he thanked us profusely for what we did. But
interestingly, just two years after, the same President who benefitted
from our protest march has turned around, and is now the one sending
troop to disperse peaceful protesters.
It is obvious
that relations between the presidency and the SNG are strained. Do you
regret the supports you gave President Jonathan in the past?
Mind you, we never
had any relationship before. Also, no bitterness or resentment or
disappointment whatsoever, because we didn’t do what we did for
President Jonathan but to preserve the constitution of Nigeria, and
prevent anarchy. The night the late President Yar’Adua was brought back
to the country, troops were deployed without his knowledge, which was
heavily criticized. That he is now deploying troop against us, means
nothing to us. It only shows that he was part of the forces we were
fighting then, only that he was at the receiving end. He has shown us
enough signs why we should not be surprised at what he is doing now.
Don’t forget that shortly after he became acting president, he started
showing his true colour, condoning impunity. In Bauchi State, the
governor, Isa Yuguda was his campaign coordinator in Northwest, and when
he joined PDP from ANPP, the deputy governor stayed back in ANPP, and
his impeachment was arranged. The deputy governor went to court and the
court ruled that the impeachment was wrong, and the man should be
re-instated. But that was not to be, because Yuguda refused, and we
confronted President Jonathan but he had nothing to say. When nine
members of Ogun State Assembly sacked 15 members, ex-governor Gbenga
Daniel was his campaign coordinator in Southwest, he couldn’t call him
to order. All he could do was to seal up the assembly. He was just
playing politics with critical issues because his friends were involved.
In your first
meeting with the president, it is reported that the SNG were offered 50
thousand pounds by the president. It is believed in certain quarter that
the group received the money, and that even before then, President
Jonathan gave financial supports to the group. How true is this?
We challenge the
president and his allies to come out and tell the Nigerian people if
money ever exchanged hands between him, and the SNG. The only occasion
they offered us money was through Godsday Orubebe who brought the 50
thousand pounds to us as we were going out of the villa gate, when we
met the president for the first and last time. And we told Orubebe that
we didn’t want the money. In fact it almost became an embarrassment. So,
we were forced to go with it to our hotel room. And immediately we got
there at Nicon Hilton, I think room 180, we called Uranta to tell him
that we didn’t want the money, and returned it back to him in full sum.
We were shocked to read on an online journal that we met President
Jonathan, and he gave us 50 thousand pounds. So, we had no choice but to
respond to the issue. Similarly Uranta called, to tell us that though
we gave the money to him but he was going to deny it.
So, where does
SNG source for money to fund its activities, and is it true that you get
financial supports from some wealthy politicians, particularly, former
governor of Lagos State, Bola Ahmed Tinubu?
Well, I, Yinka
Odunmakin do what I do because of my belief, and not for material gains.
Again, we at SNG are not indigent people, we have people among us who
are blessed. The Convener, Pastor Tunde Bakare has done quite a lot in
terms of funding, likewise other members. This is not to say that one or
two people have not made donations to us. I can tell you not Tinubu or
any politician. Even money from these people paid into our account is
still there in the bank. We have not even spent a dime from it, and
anyway we are not planning to spend a penny from it. Our plan is that if
we meet them today, we will hand over their money to them.
It seems there
is crisis in SNG with the recent pronouncement of a member of the group,
where he condemned your activities and that of Pastor Bakare in the
recent oil subsidy removal protest, and declared that the two of you are
no longer members?
There is no crisis
whatsoever. It is just that the media is not critical enough, and is
giving its pages to any riff-raff. Who is this person? I don’t even want
to mention his name. It was Femi Falana who invited him to Lagos for
the oil subsidy removal protest meeting, and when he came, he was asking
us for transport fare that would take him back to his base, which was
quite strange. He is not even part of SNG because he has not joined us
either as an individual or a group. So, somebody who had no transport
fare is now being invited to Aso Rock and was given money to rubbish us.
SNG’s position
was that the federal government should reverse back to the old pump
price but labour later caved in. With this, is SNG disappointed in
labour?
Don’t let us say
NLC or TUC entirely but with the controlling leadership. We know that
there are people who are not happy with what they did. In fact there are
some states chapters that defied the orders. It is the controlling body
of labour, the Abdulwaheed Omar, the Peter Esele, and the rest of them
who are Oshiomole’s protégés. Oshiomole over the years is a known labour
dealer. In all those period of Obasanjo and the rest when they want to
increase fuel price, the government would first meet with him to plan
how labour should go about its strike action. After he has collected
whatever he so wishes from government, he would call for strike, and
before you know it, he has called it off. That was what they were going
to do this time around too. Don’t forget that at the beginning of this
protest, Reuben Abati came out to make a statement that labour should
not forget their agreement with government. And so from the first day,
we knew what labour would do. In fact our street protest was more
impactful. We don’t call them labour leaders but labour dealers.
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